Ultimately, I think Ill need to coordinate a color so that I can leave the inside of the cabinets gold, which suggests black to me. This is not a process that can be duplicated on jobsite-made cabinetry, and is essential for a truly long-lasting and beautiful finish. And I thought the pickled looked good on red oak you didnt?! I really want to stain some birch wood in a medium reddish stain now, for a MCM inspired TV cabinet. This is so great that you are partnering with Minwax. It can be applied over any wood but is especially necessary when working with soft or porous woods like pine, alder, birch, and maple. However since the top gets plenty of use I put on a coat of varathene. I think some people just dont care about that sort of thing! Any cherry or red furniture I bleach before doing all the other steps. if you have other ideas let me know. lighten, darken, turn redder, etc.)? Thanks for putting in the work to share. If your floor is going to look blotchy, damaged, or like a wild animal skin, better to not even refinish. PLEASE WATER MARK YOUR PHOTOS SO I CAN FIND THE PROPER SOURCE! Haha! Joining our weekly newsletter gives you access to exclusive content, never-before-seen photos, your questions answered, and our favorite DIYs. Thanks so much for putting this together. This was perfectly timed! Im guessing Minwax sent you one directly since they sponsored this post? Browse the CLJ shop. This was incredibly helpful. Theyre not bad and look nice but not my color of choice. Both of the oak species took on a sort of Cerused look Im very into. Maybe Jacobean. Still love the solid wood cabinets, still love the arrangement. Great article one of the very best Ive seen on the effects of Minwax stains on different woods. I used Minwax Pickled Oak and it turned out gorgeous, for a first attempt. Its the best jumping-off point for design, no matter your interior style. It's the perfect, practical way to add the warmth of wood to all the rooms of your home. We literally just finished stripping and sanding down pine stairs that had been painted and coated in sand by the previous owners yesterday. We did a very light sanding and did stain these inside. Plus, a Bathroom Vanity Round-Up, Inspiration For The Upstairs Laundry Room, Spotting Our Loloi Rugs in the Wild: Part 2. This carefully controlled finishing process cannot be duplicated by any local cabinetmaker. We took 3 feet of water, in our 1955 mid century home, with Hurricane Harvey last Aug. Ive had one nightmare after the next, ever since. Not only does the hardness effect how a wood will accept stain (harder woods tend to accept stains better and more evenly) but also the natural color of the wood. 2. Also, professional pros (the ones who take their time to listen to you and do the job right) always water-pop the wood when using dark stains. You are the best! It takes a stain well, is durable, inexpensive, and a good cabinet choice. Such useful info! I love this! What a great post! Im curious if you sanded the samples, that also makes a big difference especially with pine Im surprised by some of your results on the pine, I use pine with minwax everyday to build furniture and I get very different results. Just wanted to say thank you. Renovating our #cljmoderncottage in Idaho and headed for new adventures in Raleigh, NC. I loved this post so much! But Im not really sure about it. My question is this: we ripped up the carpet and it looks like there is red oak underneath and the new wood that was put down in the new part of the house looks like a white oak. Would it be too white going that route? I have been doing wood finishing for over 20 years and I cant tell you how hard it is to get a client to appreciate how different stains look on different types of wood. Thank you for conducting this experiment! Im interested in the simply white stain. Ex: contractors squatting in my back room at night, appliances stolen (we were in a motel for 9 months) problems with pouring concrete flooring, broken pipes under the foundation and last but not least, the City of Houston. I am definitely sharing this post with my clients. Next, its back to the spray booth, where our skilled sprayers apply the topcoat, using another catalyzed conversion varnish. Which stain on which wood do you think is closest to West Elms pecan, like the pecan legs of their Drake sofa? It should! Its a little smelly. Love this post!! This post saved sooooo much of my time! This is sososo helpful! My mistake! Would the stain obscure more of the grain if left on more than 2 minutes? It took down the intensity and gave it a softer, slightly aged look. <3, Thank you SO much for this post!! Im having a pine table made, but I dont love any of those stains. :). At the moment I am working on an old student desk made of white oak that I would like to stain in contrasting dark and light shades. Same with hinges. thank you so much for this. Ft. of 6/4. Right now the jury is out regarding the pricing. Do you know how Chestnut stains? Really nice job on this! Awesome post. Im also learning a lot from the feedback responses. Its far safer to do a light coat, let it dry, check itand add another if needed, than to over do it and have to fix it or start over. Im loving the simply white on the pine but I was hoping to get your opinion!? Now, the faux wood floors have tones of walnut and the counter tops are white and Im trying to do my shelves in something that will go with all the different tones but not be too matchy-matchy. Thank you so much for your post, it helped my husband and I out immensely after going back and forth to the hardware store to get samples of stain! You can get a matte finish polycrylic and that often causes the least amount of change. Exactly what I needed to move forward with my project! Thank you so, so much for this exercise. We let the conditioner penetrate for 15 minutes and then wiped off any excess and removed the tape and got to work applying 6 different stains to all five of our types of wood. No wonder white oak is the HG of wood flooring. I personally like their water based Polycrylic. 90% of my customers choose a slightly different color on other materials that isnt flooring. You said that birch is a very soft wood (extremely) which is incorrect. In addition to being beautiful, Ingrid is really durable we have three kids, and we always have a home construction project going on. At first I was planning on pine because its cheaperjust not sure which stain to usethen I thought I would spend a little more and get red oaknow I have come here and Im not sure if I want poplar, white oak, or red oak. Thanks! Was about to get a bunch of milled pine moulding to stain dark walnut, but now Im leaning towards the white oak the stain really brings out the grain in the oak. This post was super interesting! Minwax is always my go-to for wood staining, Ive been using it for almost 20 years now. It totally removes the red/pink undertones! How many coats did you apply and how long did you leave each coat on for? Of course you didnt do the two stains Ive been wondering about (Provincial and Driftwood) but still ;-) Guess I will have to do my own small test for the stained shelves Im installing in our wall nook. Have you found one color stain that makes them similar? Thank for doing this! Instead of the wood grains picking up redness, you can see they all went a very neutral brown. Im guessing theres no poly on top of any of these? I built a queen sized farmhouse bed a YEAR ago this month and I have yet to gain the courage to actually stain and finish it, fearing Ill hate it after I screw it up with an ugly stain color or horrible application of it. This is SO and great and helpful- I seriously loved reading this and studying the results. Yes, this is my childhood home. Probably because we are getting ready to choose a stain for floors in the house we have been renovating. The beauty of wood grain is never in doubt, with an unmistakable warmth that no other finish can match. If youre not having success with home improvement store products to get the color youre after, paying just a bit more for a different brand can really help (or vice versa if youre wondering why a different brand is giving much darker color). You can see clearly the woods color undertones (yellow, pink, green, neutral, red) but they arent nearly as pronounced. Great post idea. What can be mixed with #2716 Dk Walnut penetrating stain, to bring out a touch of red. There is not much worse than putting on the wrong stain, especially if you are working with dark ones. Would that eliminate the pink? :). Welcome to our online community where we've posted home, DIY, style, renovations, and family since '09. Minwax Dark Walnut. The process starts with stain being carefully hand applied, and hand wiped. Ive done several wood projects, but I was considering using birch plywood for the first time. Also, is it okay to stain wood inside the home or are the fumes pretty strong? Would you please share the technique you used on the simply white? But if its red oak, you could purchase a red oak board from Lowes and do a bunch of tests on your own to get the color right. Super helpful! Isnt that going to make staining tricky as shown with this post, different woods take on different looks? Id love more in-depth stain experiments. White scares me with upkeep/kids but afraid stain wont go with design Im going for. Thank you for taking the time to do it. I have been exploring the idea of staining my maple cabinets. LOVE this postvery helpful!! I loved this. Thanks for sharing. Im open to suggestions on which of the ones here to use or if you have something else I should look at (different color stain), let me know! Great post & great blog!! I really love the Simply White and am considering using it on an antique mahogany piece. And were so happy to have you here. Interesting! I only want to create more pieces, just so I can stain them, haha! We have teamed up with Loloi to create a line of rugs that are as affordable as they are beautiful. I have some white oak chairs I bought half finished from an antiques place and stained dark walnut they came out like a dream. Tough to know! thanks. Curious how an oil based vs water based would affect the colors especially on the white oak. I was surprised how much I liked the poplar in the white stain, I would never have thought to try that, but it really calms down the purples and greens that poplar has, without making it look dull and boring. It turned out a very neutral, medium brown colour. Im not a fan of grey but Im thinking if I sand off the varathene, would weathered oak tone down the orange????? I appreciate your work doing this, but now Im more confused! I want a matt black stain with no shine at all. Is that weird? This effort is sooo great! Ive been seeking for good stain for my bedroom pine furniture. This is so useful!!! Poplar looked awesome in almost every one except the Golden Pecan. This experiment has been a great help! This was so helpful to see all the stains on the birch board. Most definitely as long as theyre the same type (oil or water base, preferably same brand). But with limited resources (not to mention space), we settled on 5 popular species of wood commonly used by DIYers, with 6 different stains; 2 light, 2 medium and 2 dark. By far the best post Ive seen on explaining the nuances of staining wood. What about bleaching the red oak first then applying the simply white stain? I loved pine with the lights and darks, but not the medium stains. My only wood refinishing project has been a large table and even though it took a lot of elbow grease, was so satisfying and beautiful in the end and much better than just slapping white paint on it. To give each wood the best chance at sporting stain, we started our study with Minwaxs Pre-Stain Wood Conditioner. In order to limit face-to-face interactions, our showroom is not open to visitors until May 4th, 2020. Need your advice. I assumed it was the quality of wood. Thoughts? The pine looks SO MUCH better with the conditioner. Thanks, all! Thanks for this! In case you missed the announcement in ourLove Letter, the wallpaper is officially installed in the laundry room, and I could not be ANY MORE IN LOVE! It very much like mixing paint for the right shadebegin light and add small amounts of the darker. And I bet youll never guess Red Oaks undertones. Thanks! As such, we are in business, crafting cabinetry and taking on new orders. totally perfect sponsored post. It doesnt look like it from the red oak samples. Very useful to see how various woods behave and really helps in choosing what kind of wood to use! The red oak brr nightmares of 1980s cabinets and heart cutout furniture. I almost want to try it!! Your illustrations were fantastic and saved me from making a huge mistake. Im looking for the perfect stain for my coffee table made of poplar. The unconditioned Birch side, again, struggled with accepting the stain, but you can also see the conditioned side of each board is slightly darker. We tested a few for ourselves but this is helping me to find some direction in what to try next. LOL. I wanted to point out 2 other variables though that would affect color, just in case someone with different results might be wondering why: 1. This post could not have been better timed for us! Ive been dying to redo my 1990s era red oak floors for a long time now, but havent been able to find any really useful information. (Then wash with 1/4 vinegar/water and lightly sand.) Im currently working on a dining table for our British Colonial interior using Red Oak and was concerned with color matching the existing dark woods. I have an old 90s red oak dining table and Id like to go for the PotteryBarn Seadrift color. this post has disappeared. I also tried with and without conditioner, which didnt seem to make much difference with the darker samples. Hopefully Ill be able to decide if this is something I want to tackle. Cabot makes a good one, and you can get it from Lowes. Do you have any recommendations? :) Thank you so much for this post!! Ill be 75 in January and am in the process of making my last big project a daybed that will eventually be used as my casket. My first go around I noticed an embarrassing amount of blotching from the stain. Is the Minwax conditioner a substitute for water-popping? Poplar has green undertones. The information I came to the comments looking for! Thanks for this post. :D Thanks for the comparison so useful!! Its one of their new stains. Looks like it could pass for walnut at a glance, especially with the unconditioned side looking like wood grain. The photos are so nice. I wanted to know how well birch took stain. I would have really liked to see a gray stain used as well. Thank you for doing such a great post! Since I poured concrete flooring (this is our second flood) and it is gray and my walls are repose gray, the bedrooms, where most of the doors are, I feel need a wood stain to give the rooms warmth. This just confirms my hatred for oak. Thanks for sharing! Last, is the redder of the two dark stains we experimented with. Thank you for posting this! Or a sort of gray stain that would really cut the yellow could work! When all pieces have cooled, they are hand sanded with an ultrafine grit sandpaper, and then rubbed with a tack cloth to remove the smallest traces of dust. Excellent resource. Yes! Oh no! My red oak banister, spindles, stairs and floors are currently stained Provincial. If you have a project you would like to discuss, please give us a call. Im going to need approximately 20 Bd. We refinished and extended our original hardwood floors and there were gross dark stains on the original floors which didnt sand out. I dont know if everything else (floor, walls) is cool if the tone should be warm? Ft. of 4/4 and 10 Bd. I cant thank you enough. I prefer Red Oak. I have read you can bleach red Oak but dont know how labor-intensive that is I was told my original 1930s floor could not be refinished So picked white oak which I prefer but then a different refinisher said yes they can be refinished. This was incredibly helpful! Ill use your post to give her some examples. Thank you! A good choice when an even, consistent look is desired (think Contemporary, for example), Crown Point Cabinetry462 River Road Claremont, NH 03743. I am so glad I found this post and your blog. We partnered with Stuga on a line of hardwood floors The Ingrid is really livable, and the color is very neutral. This is very helpful and well organized, thank you! I should add, I did solid cherry butcher block countertops, kitchen cabinets painted Repose Gray (as are all walls and trim). Thank you for a fantastically organized review of stains on various woods. Very interesting! This is a really cool post. I only wish you could have tested all of them. I personally prefer medium colors so I actually really like the medium stains best on the pine (although that birch is beautiful and I wish I was doing that haha). This collection houses a great mix of traditional and modern rugs, in cottage-y colorways, as well as vintage-inspired beauties that youll want to roll out in every room. We have a long-standing relationship with DIY, and love rolling our sleeves up and making it happen. I had to comment because I am standing in front of the stain display at Lowes and I am trying to pick a stain. I didnt know they made a white stain, I want to try it! 5. I thought the pickled looked nice too. and test out the stain first. The wood types we chose also are vastly different, ranging from extremely soft (birch) to hard (red oak) with undertones all over the map. We did provincial stain lightened 50%. What color stain would you use to achieve a blonde look with Douglas fir? I love seeing all these options! Youre right, there are so many iterations you could do of wood and stains. Great Post! Thank you. And yes, the prestain saves the day on birch. The other woods took the stain well, with more redness coming out of the conditioned sides of the boards. Question, do have any idea as to whether the sealer/shellac will change the stain colors at all (i.e. Second time, I purchased wood that was a bit higher quality (a.k.a. Only one on each. You want some contrasts. But the Dark Walnut goes with our new wood floors and the vibe of our house better. Im leaning towards a dark stain with no red, to contrast with the white oak floor. And of course it is orange once again. My one tip to anyone doing their own floors is sand everything evenly we had a couple spots that we didnt sand as consistently and those areas took the stain much darker than the rest of the floor. We applied it then wiped it off after about 2 minutes. Im having white cabinets/white granite with greyish Island, and butcher block counters and white windows. Any thoughts on how I can approach staining them without making it a thesis project? Help me with your special undertone eyes! Loved seeing all the side by side comparisons. This final baking is equally critical, as it promotes the cross-linking between the sealer and topcoat, yielding our famous gorgeous finish. Thank you for your help, creativity, time and amazing design inspiration. I bet this would be true for furniture refinishing too! This is another mid-range stain color, but with a more neutral base undertone. I found one of the photos through a google search but a whole S load of spam sites had the photo. Love my pine floors! While we continue to operate, we are taking all necessary precautions to keep our entire team safe. Very helpful post! Thanks for doing this, it really is beneficial! Befores, afters, mood boards, plans, failures, wins. Please sponsor at least one more post just like this but with other woods and stains. Can you explain what you meant by lighten if 50% how did you do that? My project is to build a side table and coffee table using 1/2 black iron pipe and then picking an edge glued wood for the top of it. Dilute ? They often do. Clad with durable textured thermofoils, this line is compatible with Sektion, Akurum, Godmorgon, and Besta cabinets from IKEA. Ive referred back to this so many times. I am looking to build a platform / platform bed and I have white oak grey pink floors and looking to contrast it with either a less grainy wood like natural Birch, Maple, and not White Oak, but may want to stain it with a semi glossed Charcoal Gray. We finally had our floors refinished last summer to try to get them a similar color. It is the matte-est sealer I have ever seen or used. The white on the pine makes my heart race! White Oak has the most neutral undertones. I have a bit of a dilemma in that I have white oak floors in my newly renovated kitchen and original red Oak from 1930 on the rest of my main floor. Why would they do that and not stick with white oak??? Thank you for sharing! Get the tools, mentorship, and training to be a Good Influencer professionally. Sad face. THANK YOU!!!! It is an elusive stain!! Using on pallet wood, probably pine as yellow seems prominent. Now I cant wait to do the downstairs, which are white oak floors. Hi, I have sanded an old pine dresser that was coated years ago in an orangy shellac. I love this! It looks pretty pink even right after staining, so I dont think the white stain is on Red Oak is what you want. From your testing I realized I can use the red oak since my stain although not as dark as the jacobean will make seeing the difference in white vs. Red oak undetectable. Best practice would be to get a piece of walnut and do some tests. I do wish we could take it further :) I have a half dozen (or more) cans of Minwax! yes! All freshly topcoated pieces head back to the oven, for another twenty minute baking at 130. Wonderful!!! The wood is extremely dry. These dont have poly on them. Although, no red came through with the pine at all. Infact, the grain in some of the boards take on a blue/gray colour. Any thoughts or stains you might suggest would be so grately appreciated. I love the white oak with the simply white stain. None of the charts here state what kind of wood is being tested. Love this! I cannot thank you enough for doing this experiment and sharing it! I wondered why the pine wood looks such a different color in the picture where you have all the pine boards next to each other vs. in the pictures with the Jacobean and Dark Walnut stains? Is there yellow pine and white pine? Originally, the old doors, were all maple and at one point in the 80s, my mom had the door facing the living area painted along with along with a lot of of solid-wood paneling.
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